![]() ![]() ![]() So, I first started hearing about her then. I was there in the early '70s - '70, '71, '72 - and she came in with the Heath government and she was secretary of education. I actually started seeing her on a previous assignment in Britain. OGDEN: Well, I was there for four years this time. I mean, she felt that there were her boys out there and they were dying, and she was very upset about it. I don't mean to suggest that that's what it was in the case of the victims and the soldiers and the sailors who were killed during the Falklands. I must say, too, she's not averse to using tears when she thinks it might work to her advantage. But she can be very emotional in private. In fact, to a certain extent, I think she's too tough in public, and that's hurt her some. So, she's very careful about how she presents herself. She is a woman in a man's society, and she's known for a long time that any weakness that she shows could be used against her. But she's so steely in public, and she controls herself so much, and I think it's for a very specific reason. She also cried at one point when her son was lost in the Sahara Desert for a few days. ![]() She told me about it, and others who were in the war cabinet told me about it. ![]()
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